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Have you decided what you are doing with flowers in your cover crop?
I’m going to plant a cover crop this fall and am interested in adding flowers to the mix. I want to understand if I should or SHOULD NOT include nitrogen fixing plants in the orchard.
I’d love to learn from what you have learned. I had the conservationist from NRCS out and she concluded that a cover of creeping red fescue would be an advantage as when it goes dormant in the winter it gets quite sparse which makes for lots of room for digging truffle. I just want to mix in some flowers for the beneficial insects and diversification of species in the field.
Any input is appreciated.
::Hi Elise. Where are you located? I’m in Oregon and I contacted my local NRCS office to ask for guidance. The conservationist was super interested in my project, did a bunch of research, and ended up suggesting creeping red fescue as it grows nicely in our climate, I can mow it or roll it down two to three times a year, and in the winter it gets very sparse which makes for terrific truffle digging! Have you contacted your county resources to discuss this with them and what would be best for your goals in your location? I was so pleased at their responsiveness.
::BTW, I contacted my local NRCS office to get help choosing the grass for the cover crop. The conservation officer came out for a field trip. After researching, she recommended I use creeping red fescue because it gets sparse in winter which therefore might make it easier to dig for truffle. All a guess but an educated one. I planted this seed last fall. It is starting to come in. I also mixed in a small amount of flower seed – YES, flowers are expensive. Many times more expensive than the grass seed. Will let you know what happens this growing season.
::I met two brothers at the OTF in 2020 who had planted 100 trees, also as a hobby, in Fort Atkinson, WI. They might be fun for you to connect with. I’m sure they won’t mind receiving an email from you. Philip Jones [email address removed by admin – not meeting forum policy] (I am checking with them to see if I can share their contact information). Very nice brothers. It might have been OTF 2019….
::I planted just straight grass seed, creeping red fescue, and sprinkled a flower mix in as a little sugar. Not much. https://silverfallsseed.com/product/short-creek-mix/ is the flower seed mix I added. Nice local provider here in Williamette Valley. I was able to drive to the producer to pick it up.
I’m considering getting a crimper/roller to roll down the orchard after it has gone to seed. Have you don’t anything like that?
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Fran Angerer
What was the outcome of this grant?
Staci O'Toole
Hi Fran.
If you click on the title it will take you to the details regarding the grant and it’s outcome.
The Primaries were Jeannine Davis and Inga Meadows. Although the research task force was not established yet there is quite a bit of information and details. If I remember correctly it helped establish their lab at NC State
Paul Beckman
Extremely well done. One of the issues that is confusing is that when Mark and I took soil samples on my Bianchette orchard. Both years the soil probe went through mature truffles in November. 100 percent truffle present. My guess is that soil samples should only be done in June This was caused by funding limitations at the time that affected our schedule.. Another area that needs to be explored is the multiple tubers in one sample. We were trying to get Western Labs Parma Idaho to develop this but timing didn’t work out. They can test for 6 nematode types in each sample. Only needs a tablespoon of soil. Seemed like reasonable way to test a lot of orchards.
Fabrice Caporal
A nice problem to have, too many truffles!
Alex Poole
Great overview
Holly Martin
Would have been nice to have an end time on Sunday for booking travel
Jeffrey Coker
1. This proposal is almost verbatim the UNECE Standard FFV-53 with some added (somewhat complicating) language about the percentages of classes that can be exposed by trimming and a couple of other things. Why not just endorse the UNECE standards and prevent the confusion of having yet another set of standards? [In our case at Burwell Farms, we are also being inspected by the state of NC and following both state and USDA food safety and packaging rules.]
2. The stated purpose of the proposal is to “standardize the quality requirements for use of the NATGA logo”. Is logo use currently a problem? Are we talking about use of the NATGA logo only on food packaging, or also on grower websites? If a grower chooses not to use NATGA’s class system, then should they remove the NATGA logo from all their materials?
Holly Martin
Species: Since both T. Gibbosum and T. Oregonense are described as Oregon White Truffle, it might be useful to include seasonal designation, i.e. Oregon White Truffle (Spring) for T. Gibbosum and Oregon White Truffle (Winter) for T. Oregonense.
II.C (iv): This is just a drafting suggestion. I found the second sentence, as organized, a little hard to follow. My suggested text has all the same information, just reorganized: Provided the truffles retain their essential characteristics as regards the quality, the keep quality and presentation, the following defects may be allowed: defects in shape, defects in development, defects in coloring, superficial bruising, and slight superficial damages caused by pests.
Over all, nice job and thanks for all the good work!
Karen Passafaro
I would add a few pictures of what you are recommending with packaging and labels
Fabrice Caporal
I like the Identification requirement. Now do those classification apply to a member of NATGA importing and reselling truffles? What then should be done with identification?
Fabrice Caporal
I never heard of the Icon class, interesting
Fabrice Caporal
Weight and shape characterizations do not apply uniformly across species. It looks like the document is centered around T. melanosporum. It would be a great challenge to find a 300g oregon truffle… another example is that Tuber magnatum is rarely round.
Fabrice Caporal
In Definition of Produce we say “species of the the genus Tuber” yet in the list of truffles below we proceed to include Oregon truffles which are not of the Tuber genus. I would be in favor of changing the definition of truffle to say what is in Wikipedia:
Or if we want to be less scientific we could say:
Fabrice Caporal
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Bryan Denig
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Raymond and Bernadine Prince
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